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	Comments on: The Golden Section in Nature: Animals	</title>
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		By: Peter Hymans		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-7475</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Life&quot; measurement has a time-awareness aspect which may prevent humans from being able to perceive &quot;life&quot; in things we deem to be inanimate. When &quot;we&quot; measure something it often requires our attention. This is limited by our requirement for sleep and our mortal nature. Some things take eons to move or demonstrate some form of &quot;intelligence&quot; Certainly Phi is an example of something resembling consciousness, over time.  In his supremely powerful book, &quot;Synergetics&quot;R. Buckminster Fuller states several instances where supposition of inanimateness of things are questionable.  The human ego all too often makes the phrase &quot;I don&#039;t know&quot; to be a source of embarrassment, rather than a place of wonderment and respect for marvelous forces we cannot comprehend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Life&#8221; measurement has a time-awareness aspect which may prevent humans from being able to perceive &#8220;life&#8221; in things we deem to be inanimate. When &#8220;we&#8221; measure something it often requires our attention. This is limited by our requirement for sleep and our mortal nature. Some things take eons to move or demonstrate some form of &#8220;intelligence&#8221; Certainly Phi is an example of something resembling consciousness, over time.  In his supremely powerful book, &#8220;Synergetics&#8221;R. Buckminster Fuller states several instances where supposition of inanimateness of things are questionable.  The human ego all too often makes the phrase &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; to be a source of embarrassment, rather than a place of wonderment and respect for marvelous forces we cannot comprehend.</p>
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		By: Rajesh		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-5427</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2020 17:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-223&quot;&gt;Sarita&lt;/a&gt;.

Nature is the playground of resources. We are yet to know who has played it so well]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-223">Sarita</a>.</p>
<p>Nature is the playground of resources. We are yet to know who has played it so well</p>
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		By: Phi		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-5165</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2020 14:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-4709&quot;&gt;Gary B Meisner&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-4709">Gary B Meisner</a>.</p>
<p>I agree</p>
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		By: Gary B Meisner		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-5103</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary B Meisner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2019 18:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-5094&quot;&gt;Rmc&lt;/a&gt;.

If so, then we need a much better understanding of life as a force. What is it&#039;s nature and source? Why does it exist? How does it act upon material? We have some of those answers for other forces, such as nuclear, gravitational and electro-magnetic. I wrote an article with a similar thought here: https://www.snapshotsofgod.com/forces-of-nature-and-self-organization/.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-5094">Rmc</a>.</p>
<p>If so, then we need a much better understanding of life as a force. What is it&#8217;s nature and source? Why does it exist? How does it act upon material? We have some of those answers for other forces, such as nuclear, gravitational and electro-magnetic. I wrote an article with a similar thought here: <a href="https://www.snapshotsofgod.com/forces-of-nature-and-self-organization/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.snapshotsofgod.com/forces-of-nature-and-self-organization/</a>.</p>
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		By: Rmc		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-5094</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2019 20:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-224&quot;&gt;Gary Meisner&lt;/a&gt;.

Life is the force (voltage) that moves matter]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-224">Gary Meisner</a>.</p>
<p>Life is the force (voltage) that moves matter</p>
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		By: Gary B Meisner		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-4709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary B Meisner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2019 02:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-4708&quot;&gt;Marietta Schell&lt;/a&gt;.

This site and page is really intended to discuss appearances and applications of the golden ratio, and not be a forum for pro-life and pro-choice discussions. The comments addressed life when a couple of readers commented that &quot;nature is alive.&quot; I disagreed because not all of nature is &quot;alive.&quot; A rock is not alive by any standard or definition that we use, but is part of nature. As to your question, Merriam Webster defines &quot;alive&quot; as &quot;having life : not dead or inanimate.&quot; So anything that exhibits the metabolic processes of life is alive and living, from a single celled bacteria to a jelly fish to a human, born or unborn. My father fit in a cigar box when born prematurely. My grandsons were quite alive when delivered via C-section very prematurely. Merriam Webster&#039;s first definition of &quot;kill&quot; is &quot;to deprive of life,&quot; so yes an unborn baby is living and to abort it is to deprive it of life. No politics in this. Just simple definition and truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-4708">Marietta Schell</a>.</p>
<p>This site and page is really intended to discuss appearances and applications of the golden ratio, and not be a forum for pro-life and pro-choice discussions. The comments addressed life when a couple of readers commented that &#8220;nature is alive.&#8221; I disagreed because not all of nature is &#8220;alive.&#8221; A rock is not alive by any standard or definition that we use, but is part of nature. As to your question, Merriam Webster defines &#8220;alive&#8221; as &#8220;having life : not dead or inanimate.&#8221; So anything that exhibits the metabolic processes of life is alive and living, from a single celled bacteria to a jelly fish to a human, born or unborn. My father fit in a cigar box when born prematurely. My grandsons were quite alive when delivered via C-section very prematurely. Merriam Webster&#8217;s first definition of &#8220;kill&#8221; is &#8220;to deprive of life,&#8221; so yes an unborn baby is living and to abort it is to deprive it of life. No politics in this. Just simple definition and truth.</p>
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		By: Marietta Schell		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-4708</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2019 20:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gary B. Meisner,

  So then with what you are saying about &quot;being alive&quot;, I take it that an unborn baby is &quot;alive&quot; because it is digesting food from it&#039;s mother, it is respirating and flexing, therefore is &quot;alive&quot;.  So to &quot;abort&quot; an unborn baby would mean that someone has just killed it, correct?

  Thanks,
  MS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary B. Meisner,</p>
<p>  So then with what you are saying about &#8220;being alive&#8221;, I take it that an unborn baby is &#8220;alive&#8221; because it is digesting food from it&#8217;s mother, it is respirating and flexing, therefore is &#8220;alive&#8221;.  So to &#8220;abort&#8221; an unborn baby would mean that someone has just killed it, correct?</p>
<p>  Thanks,<br />
  MS</p>
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		By: John M McGovern		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-3857</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-218&quot;&gt;Psychology student&lt;/a&gt;.

thank u]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-218">Psychology student</a>.</p>
<p>thank u</p>
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		By: Gary B Meisner		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-3400</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-3399&quot;&gt;Lynch&lt;/a&gt;.

So &quot;nature&quot; creates and loves too. Sounds like &quot;nature&quot; is not just some &quot;natural process&quot;, but something ... or Someone ... with purpose, intelligence, thought and emotion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-3399">Lynch</a>.</p>
<p>So &#8220;nature&#8221; creates and loves too. Sounds like &#8220;nature&#8221; is not just some &#8220;natural process&#8221;, but something &#8230; or Someone &#8230; with purpose, intelligence, thought and emotion.</p>
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		By: Lynch		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-3399</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-218&quot;&gt;Psychology student&lt;/a&gt;.

Nature create the things that nature love and that makes nature a blessing we should love nature Just like the love it creates Create love and we&#039;ll see]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/nature/#comment-218">Psychology student</a>.</p>
<p>Nature create the things that nature love and that makes nature a blessing we should love nature Just like the love it creates Create love and we&#8217;ll see</p>
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