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		By: Gary Meisner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2024 22:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-7557&quot;&gt;Ronnie Childs&lt;/a&gt;.

It is true that the golden ratio is sometimes incorrectly attributed, but with appropriate study and research you can sift those out to get to the true applications. My personal guidelines, as per page 57 of my book (https://bit.ly/goldenratiobook) are shown as follows:

With these tools, you might begin to notice examples of golden ratios all around you. Sometimes, these proportions may have been intended by the creator at other times, they may be just a coincidence. Bearing this in mind, I propose the following guidelines for identifying the golden ratio as a basis for composition:

- Relevance: Appearances should be based on the subject’s most prominent or relevant features.
- Ubiquity: Appearances should appear in more than one place to demonstrate knowledge and intent rather than coincidence.
- Accuracy: Appearances should be within about 􀂓1􀀈 of the golden ratio, measured with as much accuracy as possible, and by using the highest-resolution images available.
- Simplicity: Appearances should be based on the simplest possible approaches, those that most likely would have been applied by the artist or designer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-7557">Ronnie Childs</a>.</p>
<p>It is true that the golden ratio is sometimes incorrectly attributed, but with appropriate study and research you can sift those out to get to the true applications. My personal guidelines, as per page 57 of my book (<a href="https://bit.ly/goldenratiobook" rel="nofollow ugc">https://bit.ly/goldenratiobook</a>) are shown as follows:</p>
<p>With these tools, you might begin to notice examples of golden ratios all around you. Sometimes, these proportions may have been intended by the creator at other times, they may be just a coincidence. Bearing this in mind, I propose the following guidelines for identifying the golden ratio as a basis for composition:</p>
<p>&#8211; Relevance: Appearances should be based on the subject’s most prominent or relevant features.<br />
&#8211; Ubiquity: Appearances should appear in more than one place to demonstrate knowledge and intent rather than coincidence.<br />
&#8211; Accuracy: Appearances should be within about 􀂓1􀀈 of the golden ratio, measured with as much accuracy as possible, and by using the highest-resolution images available.<br />
&#8211; Simplicity: Appearances should be based on the simplest possible approaches, those that most likely would have been applied by the artist or designer.</p>
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		By: Ronnie Childs		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2024 19:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The golden ratio is interesting mathematically, but the problem with it is that it gets shoehorned into places where it just isn&#039;t there naturally. You can apply it to anything if to do a little searching.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The golden ratio is interesting mathematically, but the problem with it is that it gets shoehorned into places where it just isn&#8217;t there naturally. You can apply it to anything if to do a little searching.</p>
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		By: Gary Meisner		</title>
		<link>https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-5350</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Meisner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-1617&quot;&gt;Gary Meisner&lt;/a&gt;.

See my subsequent analysis of the study referenced above at https://www.goldennumber.net/meisner-beauty-guide-golden-ratio-facial-analysis/. Here I show that the facial image used in the study DID in fact exhibit most of the the same golden ratio proportions that are illustrated in the above study of Florence Colgate&#039;s face above]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-1617">Gary Meisner</a>.</p>
<p>See my subsequent analysis of the study referenced above at <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/meisner-beauty-guide-golden-ratio-facial-analysis/" rel="ugc">https://www.goldennumber.net/meisner-beauty-guide-golden-ratio-facial-analysis/</a>. Here I show that the facial image used in the study DID in fact exhibit most of the the same golden ratio proportions that are illustrated in the above study of Florence Colgate&#8217;s face above</p>
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		By: Gary B Meisner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2017 04:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-3388&quot;&gt;Ria&lt;/a&gt;.

Corrections made. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-3388">Ria</a>.</p>
<p>Corrections made. Thank you.</p>
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		By: Ria		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 02:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nasal FLARE]]></description>
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		By: Jon Merlin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2016 03:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The mirrored left side is 1000 times better than her mirrored right side. So she&#039;s really half pretty and half no so pretty. So how can she be the most beautiful? I don&#039;t really find the normal face shot that attractive because of this. I notice symmetry immediately. If it&#039;s not there then it doesn&#039;t matter what you do with makeup or clothes, your face is still flawed in a bad way. My face isn&#039;t symmetrical and I hate it  With the face, one can style the hair to compliment the assymetrical face so the whole package doesn&#039;t look like the elephant man. What&#039;s  worse is when a woman&#039;s hips (etc) aren&#039;t symmetrical. That&#039;s just unfixable also, but of course a nice flowing dress can help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mirrored left side is 1000 times better than her mirrored right side. So she&#8217;s really half pretty and half no so pretty. So how can she be the most beautiful? I don&#8217;t really find the normal face shot that attractive because of this. I notice symmetry immediately. If it&#8217;s not there then it doesn&#8217;t matter what you do with makeup or clothes, your face is still flawed in a bad way. My face isn&#8217;t symmetrical and I hate it  With the face, one can style the hair to compliment the assymetrical face so the whole package doesn&#8217;t look like the elephant man. What&#8217;s  worse is when a woman&#8217;s hips (etc) aren&#8217;t symmetrical. That&#8217;s just unfixable also, but of course a nice flowing dress can help.</p>
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		By: Jeff Giacomel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Giacomel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2016 22:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People naturally seek symmetry and balance. There seems to be an almost natural attraction to it. I have wondered if symmetry suggests a calming order or balance. 
I find I unconsciously eat my dinner in a fashion, which was pointed out to me, that I always end up with balance amounts till the end.
While Architecture and Design often achieve balance, it would seem to provide the more natural order of functionality and practicality.  Probably the progenitor of the Stickley and Batcheldor phenomenon of the early 20th century. I think the practicality and cleanliness of modern design is best illustrated in the Scandinavian movement of the 1980s. Though started in the 1950s and maturing through the 60s and 70s, by the 1980s the design and Materials were mature.

One thing often overlooked in the maturation of design and innovation is the advent of computer aided design and engineering. Finally the maturation of the integration of these technologies permitted the rapid prototyping and testing of concepts inexpensively.  Now the phrase &quot;If it can be conceived it can be created.&quot; Can be expanded to &quot;lets make one and will it sell.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People naturally seek symmetry and balance. There seems to be an almost natural attraction to it. I have wondered if symmetry suggests a calming order or balance.<br />
I find I unconsciously eat my dinner in a fashion, which was pointed out to me, that I always end up with balance amounts till the end.<br />
While Architecture and Design often achieve balance, it would seem to provide the more natural order of functionality and practicality.  Probably the progenitor of the Stickley and Batcheldor phenomenon of the early 20th century. I think the practicality and cleanliness of modern design is best illustrated in the Scandinavian movement of the 1980s. Though started in the 1950s and maturing through the 60s and 70s, by the 1980s the design and Materials were mature.</p>
<p>One thing often overlooked in the maturation of design and innovation is the advent of computer aided design and engineering. Finally the maturation of the integration of these technologies permitted the rapid prototyping and testing of concepts inexpensively.  Now the phrase &#8220;If it can be conceived it can be created.&#8221; Can be expanded to &#8220;lets make one and will it sell.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Gary B Meisner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2016 16:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-3045&quot;&gt;marsha&lt;/a&gt;.

The contest was run by a cosmetic company in England, looking for Britain&#039;s &quot;most perfect face.&quot; This is not necessarily the same as the &quot;most beautiful face,&quot; and takes nothing away wide range of beauty found in other countries, races and cultures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-3045">marsha</a>.</p>
<p>The contest was run by a cosmetic company in England, looking for Britain&#8217;s &#8220;most perfect face.&#8221; This is not necessarily the same as the &#8220;most beautiful face,&#8221; and takes nothing away wide range of beauty found in other countries, races and cultures.</p>
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		By: marsha		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 23:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She&#039;s total white bread. Dyed blonde, blue eyes??? She looks like the most generic woman in the world. If this is the most beautiful woman in the world, then apparently the Third Reich is back in power. ..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s total white bread. Dyed blonde, blue eyes??? She looks like the most generic woman in the world. If this is the most beautiful woman in the world, then apparently the Third Reich is back in power. ..</p>
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		By: Jack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2016 05:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-2689&quot;&gt;Gary B Meisner&lt;/a&gt;.

OK, thanks. I guess worded a bit too generally. The proportions being within a certain range are of course indicative of health too as they reflect a general functional plan human beings and other creatures must adhere to be functional so both are important.

What I found interesting the the case of the 2012 Face of England winner was that her face become less beautiful when the left or right side were mirrored for symmetry, even being somewhat unnerving, but maybe that&#039;s because I saw a picture of her original face before the other altered pictures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-golden-ratio-florence-colgate/#comment-2689">Gary B Meisner</a>.</p>
<p>OK, thanks. I guess worded a bit too generally. The proportions being within a certain range are of course indicative of health too as they reflect a general functional plan human beings and other creatures must adhere to be functional so both are important.</p>
<p>What I found interesting the the case of the 2012 Face of England winner was that her face become less beautiful when the left or right side were mirrored for symmetry, even being somewhat unnerving, but maybe that&#8217;s because I saw a picture of her original face before the other altered pictures.</p>
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